Small business owners who got Paycheck Protection Program loans could qualify for big write-offs from their rescue money, amounting to what Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has called a tax-break “double dip.”
The COVID-19 relief package set for a vote in Congress would clarify that business owners can deduct expenses paid for with PPP loans, which can be forgiven by the government without incurring a tax. The deduction benefit could generate more than $100 billion in tax savings for business owners, according to Brookings Institution estimates.
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The legislation would override Mnuchin and the IRS, who have blocked businesses from writing off rent, utilities and other business expenses paid for with tax-free money. The agency says the Tax Code prohibits that sort of doubling up of tax benefits.

Lawmakers from both parties, including the top-ranking Democrats and Republicans on both the House and Senate tax committees, said they intended for business owners to qualify for those write-offs when they created PPP loans. The IRS said the law didn’t specify that. Congress could pass the new legislation as soon as Monday.
The provision amounts to a huge win for small business owners, with some firms potentially ending up with a negative tax rate on their PPP money — meaning the tax benefits outweigh the amount of the loan. For business owners paying the top tax rate, it generally means they can save as much as $37 on their taxes for every $100 of tax-free PPP money they received.
Second round
The $2.3 trillion bill providing COVID-19 relief and government funding for the fiscal year into 2021 includes $284 billion in additional funding for PPP loans, which were designed to limit a wave of small-business failures that could cripple the economy. The plan lets some businesses apply for a second round of funding if they can show losses during the pandemic. Deductions are allowed on second-round loans as well.
Kevin Kuhlman, vice president of federal government relations at the National Federation of Independent Businesses, said the move by Congress to make the break explicit will help PPP recipients cope with “significant cash flow problems” when tax filings are due in April.
Many small business owners may by then be scrambling to establish reopening plans as the COVID-19 vaccine distribution expands. Trying to determine what can and cannot be deducted from income with regard to PPP loans is “the last thing they need,” Kuhlman said.
Steve Rosenthal, a senior fellow at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, said that the IRS made the right policy decision, and that Congress is off base. It makes “no sense” to allow a deduction for a reimbursed expense, because the business ends up in a better position tax-wise than if it had never incurred the cost, he said.
‘Huge giveaway’
Allowing the deduction is a “huge giveaway to the richest Americans and there is no one pushing back on this — it’s really quite absurd,” he said. He calculated about $120 billion in extra tax write-offs.
That amount isn’t reflected in the COVID-19 relief and U.S. government funding legislation currently under consideration. That’s because, for budget counting purposes, it’s considered to be a fix to old legislation, rather than the establishment of a new tax break.
Rosenthal said there are some sympathetic cases of small businesses, but the best way to help them is through more direct aid, rather than an “artificial incentive through an extra deduction.”
Tax consultants said the move will help clients stay in business.
Brian Newman, a partner and practice leader of CohnReznick’s Federal Tax Services, said those include a restaurant-equipment manufacturer. Without PPP money, many “may have either been shut down for a period of time, or shut down completely,” he said.
For small farmers in Iowa that Kent Vickre, state coordinator for the Iowa Farm Business Association works with, the provision will help lower their tax liability.
“Every dollar helps. I think people with adjusted cash flow, this would be a wonderful, wonderful gift,” Vickre said.


